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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jun 16, 2010 12:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Road Trip's Releases

Okay, so you've decided to buy a Road Trip's release, yes there are pros and cons with their editing of these releases, the 2 that I have 06-18-1974 and Fall 1979 are pretty damn good soundwise...the key is this, buy it early and get the bonus disc, at about $24 after taxes and shipping, it comes out to $8 per disk, as opposed to $12, which is a sucky number...I just ordered the 05-15-1970 release and this one is $23.99 before shipping and taxes for 3 discs and the 4th bonus disk...I fell asleep on Winterland 1978 (have wondered how the hell they edited the Stella Blue) on the bonus disc and I'm reluctant to order that one, as well as the 09-19, 20-1990 discs...w/o the bonus disc...some of the best stuff is on those bonus discs dammit...

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Poster: Yankee9 Date: Jun 16, 2010 9:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

I know what you mean Stratocaster. A couple of months ago I went to order the Winterland 78, but the bonus disk wasn't available so I figured, what's the point?

Plus, the bonus disk apparently has worth. I am not sure how I feel about it, but a local record store in my area is selling RT 1 V. 1 with bonus disk for $125.

Glad I ordered that one promptly.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 16, 2010 3:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

the patched the Stella Blue on RT1-4 with an aud splice.

Agreed on that they are only a value if you get in early and get the bonus disc.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Jun 16, 2010 4:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

That BONUS disc racket only encourages piracy. Bootleg MP-3 copies wind up on the torrent trackers any way. I've seen ZIP files with all but the latest bonus disks at demonoid.com

When those bonus disks are gone; it's cheaper to buy those official releases from some place like Amazon. I got my recent Philly CD/DVD package from another independent site for a measley $28 and change...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 16, 2010 5:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

That might be the case, however I would be reluctant to purchase any of the RT releases if it weren't for the bonus disc. 2 discs for 20 bucks isn't a great deal especially for music that in many cases I already have, but 3 discs for 20 or 4 for 24 is pretty reasonable. So if you are arguing they should just include the bonus disc as part of the actual release then I guess I agree. I think with the To Terrapin release they didn't have a bonus disc so they incentivized early sales with a discount. That seems like a reasonable approach or perhaps free shipping for pre-orders. I do question a lot of the marketing by GDP/Rhino on this stuff. The fact that they won't sell any of their new releases as Flac or .mp3 for download is mind-boggling to me.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 16, 2010 2:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

"The fact that they won't sell any of their new releases as Flac or .mp3 for download is mind-boggling to me. "

agreed

the last thing I want at this stage in my life is more clutter.

i like to keep my physical collection at platoon size now as opposed to a full Roman legion

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 16, 2010 2:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

I was thinking of making some smartass remark about the unfortunate reduction in size of your physical collection but I'll resist...

Actually discussion about the size of collections has really got to me to wondering just why I'm hoovering up as much as I am. Just taking into account the stuff I have as mp3s on the computer, if I spent 4 hours a day every day listening to music it would take me nearly 2 and a half years to listen to everything once. And that doesn't take into account all the stuff I have burned to disc and ancient undigitised vinyl and tape collections. Given that it's highly unlikely that I'd set two or three years aside in which I'd just listen to what I have and not be tempted to acquire a single note more I'm just never going to catch up with myself. So what's the point?

But more importantly, how was was the weekend with the girls, my young friend?

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Poster: micah6v8 Date: Jun 16, 2010 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

Most of the business practices of Rhino/et all are mind - ripping ( and not in a good way ) to me . I am still trying , after 8 , yeah 8 phone calls , to close an order for $40 , from 2 - 1 - 10 ! GRRR . Maybe a full blazing post when this foolishness concludes ....

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Poster: snori Date: Jun 16, 2010 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

This site seems to have everything except RT, but can anyone tell me if their prices for the Download series are in line with the original prices ? http://www.livedownloads.com

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 16, 2010 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

I looked at two of them (6 and 10) and they are in line with what i recall paying for them. However it seems to me that the only Rhino era release that is there is Rockin' the Cradle. No RTs, To Terrapin, 12/31/76, 3FTV, winterland '73 or '77 boxes or JFK '89.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 16, 2010 1:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

FLACs end up on the torrent site too - you are right cousin, they do seem to invite piracy by limiting the # of bonus discs available.

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Poster: tim_oz Date: Jun 16, 2010 2:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

I never got round to getting the earlier Road Trip's releases. My first was the 2/14/68 one, followed by the 6/16 & 6/18/74 release. I've now ordered the new one. Prior to this nice run of selections I wasn't impressed enough at the time to outlay the $$$ for the earlier ones. Like you Strat I'm hesitant to acquire any of them given the bonus discs are no longer available. Now that I've got a few the OCD collector in me is thinking it would be nice to have the complete collection.... of course it wouldn't be complete would it?!

It would be nice if they offered the bonus as a download, either instead of the physical disc, or in addition to it, so those not in a position to purchase at the time of the release still have the opportunity to get it.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jun 18, 2010 9:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

not sure what your take is on this kinda thing but you can find a bonus discs DL @ demonoid.com

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 16, 2010 1:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

The bonus disc was the deal-closer for me on this latest RT (well, that and the fact that it's 1970). Most of the stuff on Dead.net is just flat out overpriced, but four discs for well under $30 even with shipping and you've got my attention.

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Poster: steam locomotive Date: Jun 16, 2010 1:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

Could someone please explain the Road Trips concept to me like I'm an idiot?

I got Dicks Picks (literally and figuratively): it's two-track complete or mostly complete shows. I got the Vault stuff: it's multitrack complete shows or compilations organized around a unifying theme.

What the hell is the idea behind Road Trips?

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 16, 2010 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

RT's orginally started out as compilations of specific tours, runs, or clusters of shows. For example, one had a Fall '79 theme, another was from a Cal Expo run in '93, etc. However, a couple of more recent editions (the one with 6/14/68 and this lastest one) have focused on single complete or almost complete shows.

The RTs are usually marketed with a "bonus disc" available with early orders.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 16, 2010 1:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

The concept seems to be a bit of a moving target. So far it is like DP's in that they are two-track recordings however it was initially billed as highlights from a tour so the first one was a compilation from several shows from Fall '79 and the second one was from one of the '77 tours. Since then they started focusing a bit. The third one really featured 2 shows from summer '71 and the fourth from the Egypt with Love shows in '78. Since then their have been several (3 i think) that were whole shows or highlights from 2 shows. This latest one is a bit of a hybrid because it is from a single date that had two shows. So highlights from a run seems seems to be the current theme.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jun 17, 2010 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

Actually, I'm not sure even half of DP's were complete shows, and it's not like the first ones even were predominantly complete shows. They've been doing the cutting and pasting for ages!

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jun 19, 2010 1:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trip's Releases

I just ordered this new Road Trip for two simple reasons:

I hope to encourage them to release more 1970 shows, and when they put out a classic show, like this one (5/15/70) and the 2/14/68 show I will always gladly support the band by buying them although I already have more than one copy already of each of these shows..

One gripe about the 5/15/70 release though.. where is the amazing "Next Time You See Me"? If time was a consideration I would have passed over Weir's screamy "Minglewood" in favor of it.

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2010-06-19 08:15:19